Welcome back to the show My fellow extraordinary Americans.

For today’s guests we have the Tamara Vander Lugt. Tamara is an entrepreneur and philanthropist with over two decades of experience in operational districts, project management, marketing, and startup companies. Tamara specializes in the development and execution of domestic and global startups Companies. 

She has vast experience in a variety of sectors such as construction, food and beverage, alternative energy, transportation, aviation, finance, and hard assets. Currently, she’s implementing her father’s dying wish and completing the global humanitarian project he had been working on since the mid-2000s, all with the goal of helping others and being a positive light in the world, phase one starts with a global transportation company called Jag Global Transport Inc., which would move high-value hard assets for clients Globally, utilizing former combat veterans as security personnel creates the highest level of success and aims to reduce veteran suicide rates. 

Phase two is the development of an avionics school centered on humanitarian aid using industry and disruptive technology, and phase three revolves around affordable housing paired with full-circle sustainable farming Methods. Tamara is what I would call her an Extraordinary American, and I’m definitely glad. To have her on the show.

I am thanking you, Cosmos.

Tamara, thank you so much for taking the time to do this podcast with us. I’m honored to have You on the show. We know that you’re an entrepreneur and a philanthropist. Can you let me in? The audience a little bit more about yourself and your background and how did you get started?

I started at a very young age, helping my dad at about age 13. We were farmers in California. And my dad loved airplanes and came home one day and said, you know, I think I want to start an airline. And two years later, he did it from the ground up. From scratch. Just a country boy farmer has started an amazing passenger airline that ran for a year in Fresno, CA, called Air 21. And it was great because his objective was to create jobs and help the community, and he got the founding fathers involved. 

But in the process, he had me edit his business plans at a very young age because what I didn’t realize he was doing was grooming. And he also wanted to include me because we were very much alike. So that always fed that entrepreneurial spirit growing up. 

So, when I graduated from college, the first job I ever had was working for an entrepreneur who had five companies, which I ran for him, and that was a hook-like anchor. I loved it. And they were so diverse industries range from finance to personal investigations to aviation to car sales. It was a lot of fun and an amazing experience, and that led to more entrepreneurs that I started to work for people in land development, immigrants who came from the Middle East, and running companies for them in a number of sectors So it just kind of transpired from there, but I always knew that I wanted to create businesses, help people, and do that. 

So, when my dad got involved with a lot of other like-minded individuals. He started to have me involved on the marketing side because that’s the majority of my background in the NBA and because I love human nature. I like to understand what makes people tick, why people make choices, and the root causes of actual aspects. I think that you can’t solve problems unless you understand the root cause. So, it just So that got me into project management and a lot of business development, and I started doing some consulting on the side, and I loved it so much. I still love it.

Well, Tamara, this is amazing. You started doing entrepreneurship at a really young age, and at one point you were actually trying to run like five companies that went right. So, my question to you is, over the years that you’ve done business and run companies, what was your overall vision and goal. And how did it change over a period of time.

At first, my objective was just to get experience because being a female in the work environment is a challenge in itself, especially in certain demographic regions. Every demographic has a different challenge, so I knew that I wanted to be under smart people who would give me an opportunity, see what I could offer, and just give me that knowledge that I was craving and that made me really realize how important having the right to mentor and having lots of mentors throughout your life are.

I agree with you. Mentorship is one of the most important factors that you need while doing well when it comes to financial education and business. I think a lot of people want to start businesses and be entrepreneurs, but they never really had the right mentorship or what you would call the right financial education. Which is what this podcast is about. We have to create the right mindsets, the right thoughts, and so on. 

So, Tara, one question I had was: What was it the motivating factor that drove you towards entrepreneurship was that it’s a really hard thing to do. I know, your father was a presence, but other than that, what was some thing? What drives you towards entrepreneurship and business?

I love the creation of bringing something from nothing, just that creative aspect of ideas and how can it? Health industries, communities, and people involved in them I love that. I love the creativity part.

I mean, yeah, like entrepreneurship. Some people would say, I mean, some people think of business as corporate America, which is hardly like any creativity. And then, on the other hand, you have entrepreneurship, where you have to create products and services, but it also involves a lot of risk while doing so, right? 

So, like when you were younger, I’m sure at some point you had the fear of failure. And like, basically, what are the companies doing that is not going to work out or the financial things? So, what is your mindset on how to overcome this intrinsic fear of failure that most people have when they want to start their business?

Well, I think the fear of failure If you don’t have that fear, then you need a reality check. Because I think it’s human nature to have a certain amount of fear. But fear is also inevitable. Fear needs to happen so that you can understand things from different perspectives, and failure, I think, is also very important to encounter because you learn more lessons through failure than success. I think if success doesn’t come with any type of hardship, people take it for granted. And it’s very easy to have that philosophy of, well, the gambler’s philosophy that if it keeps happening, it’s going to continue to happen. That’s not always true.

Something my dad always told me my entire life, because we dealt with a lot of hardships and a lot of things we’ve lost because we took a lot of risk. And he always told me to never give up. That was what he told me. Through college, through struggling, through courses, through business, through everything, he was always that person. I would go to, and no matter what, I was struggling with, he said. Never give up. He’s like, It’s OK to get down for a moment, because that’s normal. So, but never stay down. Always make sure you’re surrounding yourself with those positive people to build you back up.

No, I mean, I guess the last part, which you talked about, is about having positive people around you. Like me, I feel like a lot of people have the wrong group of people. Around them and then they will continue until you bring them down.

So, I do think about the last Parts like that actually help overcome fear fairly well. A lot of people give them negative energy, and they try to bring it back. You’re down, and they say you can’t do it.

Yeah, because it’s human nature to absorb what’s around you. I mean, you are what you hang around with. You’re the sum of three people that you spend the most time with. So that’s something to really consider, as are those people who build you up, keep you mundane, or bring you down because they need that because they feel insecure. 

So, I think you always want to be the dumbest person in the room: You always want to be the least successful person in the room because you’re always going to thrive if you’re around people that do more than you because you’re going to want to run with that same crowd.

No, totally. That is definitely true. And speaking of human nature, right. I feel like I’ve studied human nature for a number of years. And over and over a period of time I came to a bunch of realizations. But when it comes to that and business, right what was one of them over the years? What was one of the biggest lessons you came to realize regarding the interconnection, the interconnection between human nature and entrepreneurship and business in general.

Always trust your gut. It is right 100% of the time. If you actually listen to it

Can you elaborate a little bit more about that? Because a lot of people would say you have to be rational… And logical and trusting you’ve got.

Those have nothing to do with human emotions. Those are all you have for your Tier 1 and Tier 2 thinking, which is you. Know your logical side and your emotional side. You have to listen to the emotional side within reason and logic, because again, you can’t be 100% one or the other. You know you have to have a balance between the two, but if you’re really in tune with understanding and reading people, then you know and can feel when people have nefarious intentions, or their purpose is something else that’s not aligned with yours. 

It’s something like that I don’t know if it can be taught, maybe coached. I think more people I think some people see it more as a gift than others. Some people can work on it. But I think it’s closer to the level of People would call it a conscience. You know, how are you with your moral compass? You’re conscious of what feels right and what doesn’t, right? It’s like when an animal approaches a human. 

Animals know instinctively if they like someone or not. I trust animals’ intuition over anything, and that’s the same level that humans need to have. What is your first reaction to someone? Why do you like it? Do you just innately like them all of a sudden? But why do you then have to question if there’s something telling you? There’s something you don’t like about them, but you can’t pinpoint it. You probably need to dig into that, and you should always give people an opportunity, I believe. But always be cautious, knowing that there’s something telling you to be cautious. That’s kind of what I mean as far as just having that gut instinct, and not everybody has ever experienced it. But I think a Lot of people have.

I like the fact that you’re talking about, you meet somebody and then you’re they’re really Charming or something. But there’s something off about them, but you can’t pinpoint what that is. You and I probably don’t know how many people probably went through that where they could not pinpoint it, but then later on they realized this person’s trouble, and then they, but they just had that instinct. But they could not Figure out how it is.

And usually it’s too late, and you’re hurt in the process when you find out, and you’re like, oh, that is why I didn’t trust them. But I just didn’t realize that was the reason.

Yeah, I think I remember back when I just got out of college and there was this one person who eventually ended up like conning me and then looking literally like, punched me in the face and then broke my nose and all that in Chicago.

I’m Not getting too Deep But, in the beginning, He was really charismatic, and then we had this business plan. And did all This will work with him, right? But then he Would like to sell me on big dreams and all that stuff. And I just fell for it. 

But my gut was telling me something was off. Like it’s not right, but then like My logic would say no; that’s me, for example, take a look at the math. And like the business. It seems to be working. We eventually went on a drive from, like, Texas all the way to Chicago and then And I don’t know why I did. I was probably young and dumb, not even stupid, and all of that. 

But then yeah. He eventually ended up screwing me over, and then not just that Giving me a broken nose. As well, and I survived that ordeal, obviously. And I had to drive all the way back, but it made me, but I realized that a lot of good came out of that eventually because, ultimately, I started researching narcissistic personality disorder and what is antisocial personality disorder… Well, how do sociopaths think and act? Psychopaths, and like and like, what is their mentality and strategy? And I learned a lot about human nature. I figured out that there’s actually a subgroup of people out there in this world they literally don’t have the capacity. To have a but they’re really charismatic on the outside, and it’s like they lure you in, but they literally don’t have a conscience.

Because it’s all about control.

And people can’t because the majority of people can’t, right? 

Most of humanity likes at some level, we have. Some level of conscience on the other. So, it’s hard for us. Imagine that there are people out there who don’t have it; how do they think about it, and what is it? And you realize that to them, the world is a game. And like, it’s all about winning and losing. And all of that stuff. 

And so, it was an interesting experience, right? even in the toughest times, like you. Like you get something good out of it. You learn and you grow, and then you learn a lot about people that you otherwise would not have learned.

And I think sociopaths also have a lot to do with acquisitions. Because I am a female in the business world. A lot of the positions I was hired for, I found out later, were not for my background and experience, and I found out the hard way. 

And when you go to people for help, when you are in situations where they don’t always believe, you now grant that things have changed in the past 20 years, and we’re talking about, you know, a long time. Time ago but things like that scar women, and it happens to men too, but I think it, especially in a certain time frame, did happen to a lot of females, and they never spoke up because it was just pushed under the rug for a very, very long time.

So, one of the questions I had for you as a female in a male-dominated field was, “Who has been as a woman that has been in a male-dominated feel like that’s been in doing business in a male-dominated field?” What is someone Challenges that you had to go through, in general, from a female perspective in these fields.

Trying to balance femininity with strength because you’re dealing. With a lot of egos sometimes. And having a powerful, strong-willed female is often very intimidating for males who are insecure but don’t show it. 

So, there can be a lot of conflict and a lot of backlashes, things like that, and some of it is sexism too, because again, it’s If you fit a certain classification of what they like, then they’re going to treat you a certain way. And it all depends on how males and females are viewed differently by those in those industries. You know, if a male doesn’t respect women, he’s not going to respect any female. It doesn’t matter what role, they have, how educated they are, where they came from, and if they’re going to Be a sexist no matter what. 

How to combat that… I think, learning the essence of grace and patience. Because no matter how you react, the more you react, the more you’re going to get a negative reaction. It’s not going to move the needle forward. It’s not going to help you in your career. I think the more you set your boundaries gracefully and the more you communicate uncomfortableness within a group, even toned down, because again, if you create emotions high or low, it’s going to affect. The business world negatively, so I think it’s a very fine line that you have to learn and It’s an art. It takes time to perfect. You’re going to make a lot of mistakes, and you have to figure out where that balance is between communicating what you’re uncomfortable with and what your needs are, but also demanding respect from others.

So, Tamara, one thing that I want to ask is, Let’s say you have a female entrepreneur who’s in their late teens or early 20s and they want to, follow your path to doing multiple companies and going through businesses and also going into a male Dominate field? What would you advise and how would you coach this person if they were just starting Off and they. And what advice would You give this person.

Be bold. 

And don’t feel like you have to agree; say yes and don’t apologize. Because if you’ve done your research and have data to back up your information, don’t compromise. Stand your ground, because not everyone’s going to do that. And I think it’s very important to have a strong educational background. Understanding your industry inside and out so that way you can come very logically to meetings and conversations, whether it’s just a regular meeting or trying to make a change in an organization. 

Yeah, there’s a lot of things that a young girl would do and also how you present yourself and carry yourself, carry yourself with strengths. Don’t try to be that young, sexy girl in the office. It’s OK to have a hybrid of the two again, we do not want Physical attributes to be the selling point to get what we want. I think that is going to set a negative tone for females, and I mean females. 

So, we are all built differently, but I think if you’re trying to emphasize the wrong attributes that you have. It’s going to come back very negatively later in life. So, own your intellect. Own your skill. Set aside and focus on those things alone.

That is awesome. I’m glad you mentioned it because I believe that only in the recent century like the past century, the 20th century, and now the 21st century like women is now coming full on into the workforce and there’s like kind of like a they’re trying to figure out how to do this balance that you’re talking about. And I mean it from my perspective. It all seems like a really hard balance.

Having a femininity as well as being like being in a male dominant feel like having data and all and being logical and all that stuff.

It’s hard. And a lot of women before me dealt with a lot more as well. So, you try to learn from previous generations, and that’s something I would highly advise young entrepreneurs to do talk to people. 10/20/30/40/50/60 years older than you, and ask them what they did right, what they did wrong, and what they would do differently.

So, on a different note, Tamera, I wanted to ask you about this question because, as you know, they say that America is the land of the free and the place where dreams are made. Do you agree or disagree with that?

I do agree that this is a place for opportunity and dreams. I’ve known a number of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation immigrants. Some are successful, some are mildly successful, and some are not so. So yeah, I think this is a place for opportunity. If you take advantage of it and get involved in the right arenas, and education isn’t always a thing from a formal aspect, I don’t believe everybody has to go to college to find success. But normally, I would say that it’s the circumstances that you’re put into and the environment you’re in that will dictate your success or not. I have met two individuals, one more recently, who kind of shook that theory for me. And I think it has very little to do with your circumstances. I think it has much more to do with the personality of the individual and their motivating factors.

The most recent person I met in my early 50s was a first-generation immigrant from Ireland. Success beyond what we could believe had the worst upbringing Awful, awful. But that motivated him to push harder, and a lot of people did. When I grew up in California, I dealt with a lot of that poverty, jumping from household to household, not having parents involved in their lives, and not having the love and security that you need as a child. 

A lot of them did not reach the large amounts of success that society would deem successful. But this particular individual used it as the catalyst to go into Elite athleticism, let’s just say, and then go into finance and to win at everything and to always have success upon success because it was that driving motivating factor of all those things that hurt him young, but he said I’m never going to do that again.

No, I mean, I’ve actually interviewed quite a few people who say that they’ve had a horrendous childhood or that they’ve had some of the toughest, toughest circumstances out there, when they were young, but instead of getting down on them, they used it as fuel and fire to basically go in the opposite direction. That’s something that the audience knows that even if, you’re going through the hardest circumstances out there, it’s our perspective and how we respond to those circumstances. They’re going to dictate what we’re going to do, and whether we’re going to have a positive outcome in our lives or not. Yeah, for sure. 

So, I had a question, Tamara, so like, what do you think is the biggest hurdle that Americans face right now when it comes to realizing the American dream, and how would they overcome this? According to you.

I think it’s where people are getting their information from, I think a lot of people have a lot of dreams and a lot of ambition. Partially it’s not knowing where to find the right resources. Part of it is In a sense, it’s almost depression, because people talk themselves out of things because of fear of success, fear of failure, or Fear of trying. I think that’s where a lot of Americans are at. Are scared to make that step. Lose whatever security they have. Or whatever they’ve created. It’s also its comfort zone too. If you are going to be a true entrepreneur, you must live outside your comfort zone 24/7.

I mean, that’s easier said than done, right? We all want to go outside our comfort zone. But when it actually comes to actions like going there, I mean, we can have all the financial education in the world, but if we’re not going to go take the actions, it’s pretty difficult to put the education into effect.

Education means nothing without action, so it’s, you know, you can plan and prepare all you want, but until you take that first step, you might fail on the first 5 or 10 steps, but you’re at least moving forward and you’re not stagnant.

 No, totally. So, Tamara, I know that before this, when I’ve met you before, we talked about precious metals and hard assets and all of that stuff, right? Because now there is inflation going on, and it’s only going to get worse eventually, right? I’m pretty sure the Fiat currency is going to go. It’s not going to be there for much longer, but from your perspective, how should people handle things like inflation and debt, and what should people do to combat this?

If you do have debt, focus on your high interest rates first and get those down immediately, because with interest rates rising, that’s just going to manifest and you’re never going to get out from under that rock. I would also say to be strategic with your investments. What does the industry look like that you want to get into. But for the average American, I would say that probably most of them don’t have traditional investments. 

I would say, you know, other than maybe an additional property or two or maybe some stock market options, this is the time to understand economics industries. And if you’re going to invest or reallocate investments, focus on industry-specific ones because there are always sectors that are going to boom when others completely fail, and vice versa. It’s in the laws. So, I think this is the best time to educate yourself on Global economics. 

Yeah, I mean, a lot of people probably want to be educated, but they don’t really know, like, which area or places to go to find such education. And do you have any recommendations?

I wouldn’t say a very specific place because I think you need to find Twenty sources. And then for your ideas, perspectives. You need to find common ground with what makes sense to you. That’s how I do my research. So, you are less likely to find biased information if you only focus on one or two industries. We don’t know which way they actually lean, what their motivation is, or what their agenda is. 

If you’re looking at things at a global level and from 20–30 different sources, what are the common aspects between all those sources? That is the truth, right there? If everyone’s saying the same thing, All the other things are what you to Judge Gage, And research: I don’t think enough people do actual research from unbiased sources, and they just take. They take news articles at face value, or they only read the titles or the first paragraph. Start reading more, read everything, and read as much as you can all day long. That is going to be the best way to understand and watch markets as they move.

I mean, right now, basically for the first time in human history, all of the nations have Fiat currencies, which is crazy, right? Because many of them were linked to the American dollar, which itself stopping being backed by gold in 1971. Now everything belongs to personalists like a disaster in waiting. But I’m personally doing research on precious metals, like gold and silver… maybe the right cryptocurrencies. And just like real estate investing education, Because I know, like, these are Like assets that are going to be more stable when things go South, you know.

It’s interesting because the whole aspect of currency and the value of currency are based on people’s beliefs in it. You know, we put our faith in a cash dollar over anything else because we have a tangible asset. You can hold on to However, it’s not actually an asset if it’s not backed by anything, and it literally says so on there. I owe you. So, you are holding the promissory note when you have cash. 

But when you’re talking hard assets, people are always going to go back to historical known values of what they trust and know because we are creatures of habit. And we don’t like change. So, if a new thing fails and crashes, we’re going to revert and divert back to what’s known and tangible. Which are they?

That gold. 

Basic hard assets: gold and silver You know the monetary aspects of what used to be the main currency of trade. And then before that, it was what. You know, if it was barter, it was barter. What can I do? For you, what? Can you give it to me? And are your apples as good as my manure, you know?

Probably not, but 

Well, it depends. You know who the buyer is.

They’ll be like That’s why the camera That’s why they started using Like a system like gold, right? They knew the bar system was inefficient because nobody could come to an agreement on what was considered valuable. 

Their value? It was a sustainable aspect that they could create a level area. For a very long time, and they did because it never changed in value or assumption. It was a guaranteed amount.

And then and then, like, you know Gold was also scarce, and you had to have, like, a scarce kind of thing. But then, now that we have Fiat money, where? It’s just getting printed and printed. Like whenever there’s the problem is that you just printed it, and you know that’s not correct.

Yeah, that is the concerning part is, you know, even though there is a certain amount of printing happening right now, the residual effect isn’t going to impact us as much right now as it will 5/10/15 years from now. That is when it’s really going to It will hurt the global economy as a whole, honestly, and again, depending on what happens with presidential elections, global finance aspects, and what the World Bank wants to do, it will either elongate it or prolong it. Or it will happen a lot sooner.

So, Tamara You know, in America, in the last so many years, there has been a deterioration in not just the financial sector but also in government and also in the family as well. Where do you think America is headed? And should we be optimistic for the future or not?

{30:30} Optimism for America future

Personally, I’m always going to lean toward optimism, because I think if we automatically say it’s doomsday, then everyone’s going to believe it. You know it’s the sheep effect. I think there always needs to be optimism, regardless of how many negative things are out there that might be pointing in a certain direction. And I think that optimism is going to be the only thing keeping us from very quickly going into a negative downward spiral. 

So, I think more people need to be optimistic and creative about opportunities and what they can do to mitigate those factors. When it comes to the family sector, there’s going to be a lot of different opinions about that. Have I seen a change over the past 30 years in the family dynamic from what America considers this the social norm, you know…

It’s hard for me to say because It’s a massive controversy. No matter what side you look from, you know, I come from a traditional home, so obviously I have my values because I was very blessed to have great parents. Have a happy family life. So those are things that I hold value in because I had a good experience, but not everybody did. 

So, I understand why some people don’t believe in that model. Because they had negative experiences. So, it’s a bad taste in their mouth. That makes sense to me. But what I want to tell them is that just because you had a bad experience doesn’t mean the system or the model itself is bad. And I think More people should give it a chance.

No, totally. You know, we should always be optimistic about the future, but the most important thing we can do right now, and I’ll tell you, I’ll stress this to my audience, is to get financially educated, when you have financial education, especially about monetary systems, like how does money work? What is money? What is Fiat money? What is gold-backed money? That’s when we can protect ourselves against anything that is out there about how to do business. What are their mindsets and strategies? Acquire to start your own business. How to monetize what you’re passionate about So that’s how we cannot control the world around us. Can start doing things that are within our vicinity

Yeah, the more you know about those industries, the more you can protect yourself. The more people around you, the more you can help your communities, because if you understand how finances work from a small domestic level to a global level, you’re going to understand the INS and outs of what you need to do to get the job done.

No, totally. So, Tamara, on a different note, I know that you mentioned that your father had this global humanitarian project, and now you’re continuing with it. Can you tell me a little about the audience? Bit more about that and the premise of how it got started.

Yeah, we’ll do a very high level of it right now. There are a lot of details that need to be ironed out as things have changed because my father was involved with a group of individuals about 15 years ago when it originally started. And they wanted to start a global humanitarian effort, from housing to land development to cleaning up disaster zones. 

It was beautiful on so many levels, and he got me involved when I was in my 20s. There was a lot of heartache, and a lot of things kept the project from moving forward. And then later, my dad got cancer, and he battled it for about four years. And at the very end, the day before he passed away, he looked at me and said, Tam, finish it. So, he gave me the tiara to take his old business plans, all the projects, and everything else. And because there are so many different phases within this monstrosity. And so much has changed, economically speaking, over the past 10 years that I’m having to recalibrate.

What is the best first step to get this project going? Because you can’t start all of them at once. That’s not going to happen. I think that was the issue. A lot of the time, as they were trying to do too much at once. So, I’m going to take my dad’s dying wish and start in the first part, which is a transportation company moving high-value hard assets globally for clients. 

And letting that be the cash cow to get the other projects going will then lead into the avionics aspect of the school for people to learn how to fix. And you know, then we can lease airplanes, and then we can send airplanes to disasters zones from humanitarian aid. Then we can build the housing aspects for the employees and the people who live there. We go to help, and it just folds over. 

So, I feel that I found the right Now it’s about making sure that the structure is set up correctly and getting the right people involved. So, for me, that is the biggest thing. Why it really struggled is because it didn’t have the right people from the beginning. There were a lot of people who didn’t want It to succeed. So, I only want to be around people who have these same intentions. We just want to help people and make the world a better, cleaner place.

That is awesome. I really, I really hope that you succeed in your endeavors. So, Tamara, yeah. Yeah, go ahead.

It’s not if, it’s when.

Yeah, totally. It’s a really amazing mission. And I’m and I’m and. I’m all booked on this succeeding, you know. I know your hearts in the Right place, and it will eventually succeed. So yeah, Tamara, how can we connect with you and get to know more about you and all of that?

So, I will prefer people reach out to me individually right now if they have questions, because I am very I am particular about who I share information with because we do have proprietary technology and information. 

So, I would just like to do my due diligence. If I have conversations about the project or about me in general, e-mail is always a great way to get a hold of me, and that’s at TLVANDERlUGT@gmail.com. I’m also on LinkedIn under Tamara Vander Lucht. those are probably You know the best ways to contact me right now to ensure that I can keep track of everything.

Well, Tamara, I’m really grateful that you took the time to do this podcast with us because your expertise is amazing and you’re basically an inspiration to a lot of female entrepreneurs that do want to go into male-dominated fields. And I do hope that in the future You do come. I’m back as a guest again for this podcast.

Yes, I’ll give you an update when that happens.

OK, no. Yeah, like totally. And I want to conclude this episode by letting my fellow Americans know that, look, there’s something extraordinary within each and every one of us. And it’s our duty to awaken it and unleash it until next time. Bye for now.