Blue Collar Perspective of the American Dream with Leon Leinbach

Leon Lineback is the founder and CEO of two companies, Keystone Construction LLC and Blue Jay Garage Doors LLC. He grew up on a farm and started working in construction at age 16. He shares his lessons learned from construction such as delegating trust but verifying, being humble, and having a growth mindset. 

Leon believes that the American dream is about being faithful to God, family, and the people around them. Financial freedom is important in the pursuit of happiness, but happiness is a state of mind.

Highlights:

{02:37} Leon’s journey

{05:47} The mindset needed to become an entrepreneur.

{08:11} Life lessons from the construction industry

{09:54} Blue-collar vs White-collar

{12:54} Biggest challenge faced in the construction business world.

{15:50} The number one trait to look for to hire a successful person.

{18:52} Staying humble while being confident. 

{22:35} Advice for the person wanting to start a construction business.

{26:14} America the land of the free

{30:02} What is the American Dream?

{40:17} Keystone Construction and Blue Jay Garage

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Leon Leinbach Bio

Leon is the founder and CEO of two companies, namely Keystone Construction LLC and Blue Jay Garage Doors LLC

He grew up on a farm and at the age of 16 star working as a laborer on a construction crew by age 17. He was a supervisor on his team and at age 19, decided to take the risk of starting his own business. Since November 2005, he has been helping people build their dream post-frame buildings. 

Currently, his company, Keystone Construction, serves customers in Kentucky and Tennessee. The business has had good growth, especially in the last few years. High-quality buildings with excellent service as the standard as well as providing excellent customer service. And exceptional quality products. 

Keystone is founded on the five principles that outline its values. These are putting God first in all decisions people-first mentality, humility, a growth mindset, and having fun. In 2020, Leon also founded DJ Garage Doors, our garage door installation service and repair company. 

Connect with Leon:

Website: https://keystonepostframes.com https://bluejaygaragedoors.com 

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leon-leinbach-48b63469 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Keystonebuildings

IG: https://www.instagram.com/keystonebuildings 

Welcome back to the show, my fellow extraordinary Americans. For today’s guest, we have Leon Lineback. Leon is the founder and CEO of two companies, namely Keystone Construction LLC and Blue Jay Garage Doors LLC

He grew up on a farm and at the age of 16 started working as a laborer on a construction crew by age 17. He was a supervisor on his team and at age 19, decided to take the risk of starting his own business. Since November 2005, he has been helping people build their dream post-frame buildings. 

Currently, his company, Keystone Construction, serves customers in Kentucky and Tennessee. The business has had good growth, especially in the last few years. High-quality buildings with excellent service as the standard as well as providing excellent customer service. And exceptional quality products. 

Keystone is founded on the five principles that outline its values. These are putting God first in all decisions, people-first mentality, humility, a growth mindset, and having fun. In 2020, Leon also founded DJ Garage Doors, our garage door installation service and repair company. 

He is an example of an extraordinary American that came from humble beginnings to succeed in his field, and I’m honored to have him on the show. Leon, are you there? 

Yes, Sir. Thanks for having me. 

Thank you for coming to the show. I’m excited to interview you because your story is pretty inspirational. So, I know you’re the founder and CEO of two companies. Can you tell me and the audience a little bit more about yourself, your background, and how you got started?

Sure. So, the primary company that I founded in 2005 is Keystone Construction. How I got started is that I was working for a construction company. As Cosmo mentioned there in the introduction, I’ve just got this dream of being able to help other people to build the buildings of their dreams. And so, in two in November 2005, we started off Keystone construction.

OK, so, how did you know what was the process with which you started? I know you grew up on a farm and then you started being in the construction industry at a very young age, age 16, age 17. That is extremely young. How did you go from there to starting your own business and what was the entire process? Of how you got to start your own company.

So how that got started is growing up on a farm. We built most of our own buildings and homes. So, I was around construction probably from the age of 7 to 8 years old. And going with my dad, you know, different construction projects. So, I was introduced at a very young age over and over. When I started out at age 16. It’s already had eight years of, you know, off-and-on experience, and you could get into the construction field. So, it was very familiar. 

I enjoyed working outside so that was one of the reasons I opted to go into that field. And you know, being an entrepreneur minded from a young age. There was a time between 8 and 10 years old that I got into this idea of raising rabbits and my dad was very supportive of that. So, you know, I’ve got male and female rabbits and raised a lot of rabbits and then sold them. To customers so that was really my first entrepreneurial journey. 

Getting started in construction at age 16. It was nothing. It was not new for me necessarily, but it was something I enjoyed. Being a natural leader pretty quickly got promoted to supervisor. And being a part of that career. And then as time went on, that’s when I just got the desire to be able to run my own company. Growing a company that can be a help to people is with people that we work with as well as building other people’s dreams. 

Wow, Leon. So, you know, there are so many people in the construction industry, right? And they basically end up just working the minimum-paying job or they never really end up starting their own business. So, what was the difference in your mindset compared to other people that got you to take the risk of starting your own businesses in the field where most people would just be, would just settle to work for another company and just get paid a certain amount? 

I think that was really taught by my parents. My dad was independent, and he promoted independence and entrepreneurship. He really believed that being capitalist and being independent, independent is one of the main things that America thrives on or just population in general, and so that was really Something that we were taught from a young age. 

I see. So, it was basically a mindset that was read from a young age, right? But The thing is, it’s extremely risky, especially in the construction industry, right? Because, you know, you have a lot of people, I mean, I don’t know if it is true or not, but the perspective that a lot of people, especially white-collar workers, will get is that that the construction industry is a really tough business and there are all these people trying to undermine the other person and it’s really tough, especially when it comes to New York construction. So, what was the thing that allowed you to start a business and risk everything and know that it’s a tough field? Relatively or is, or was it something else?

I’m a natural risk taker. I think that’s probably the biggest thing and it was something like that my dad was promoted. It’s just, you know, go do it and figure it out. So, when I look back thinking about that, I didn’t really think that it was that huge of a risk, although it was. 

So, I think a lot of that comes again to the background of just being brought up in that environment of going ahead and taking risks, you know, just diving in figuring it out. You know. It’s definitely interesting to me to hear different perspectives when it comes to, you know, how people view those risks. Construction is a tough industry and it is something that you have to be willing to work hard and be able to go out and do it, take action, and do what it takes.

Yeah, I mean, it definitely is. And there’s a lot, there’s a lot of saying about how people can be really ruthless. But there are also a lot of good people, especially among the laborers in construction, right? But, from your perspective, what is one of the biggest lessons you learned while you were working in the construction industry? 

One of the biggest lessons I’ve learned over the years. Is when you delegate trust but verify. And this goes to, you know, trusting a customer or trusting an employee, right? So, you want to be able to have that process of delegation and trust to a customer or to an employee, but then have good follow-up and make sure that things are happening on the job as they’re supposed to. 

And that if there is a certain process in the construction field. That, let’s say, the customer was supposed to get the site excavated because sometimes with the type of construction that we do, that is part of what they do, there they make sure that somebody comes in and gets a site flat, flat excavating so that we can start. And so that’s just simply a smaller area of, OK, you trust them to do it, but then you also follow up and verify. And so, at a young age, it’s something that is one of the main simple lessons that I learned throughout life. 

I see. So, you know, in the white-collar world, for instance, people are very nice to you on the surface. But there, they can be very Machiavellian. So, in the blue-collar world, I’ve had a couple of friends in the blue-collar world, and they all tell me that people are, they’re rude and real to you and authentic. But at the end of the day, once you get past the exterior you become really good friends. So, from your perspective, what is the difference between the blue-collar world and the white-collar world in your eyes? 

You know, I look at it as all human beings come over the same cloth. So, to speak. So, if you can get to know them as a person, regardless of if they’re white color or blue color, they learn to trust you as a person. Ultimately, the reactions are the same as the whole of the elements. Because of the white color and the blue-collar I get; I think I understand your perspective on the difference in how they relate. But a lot of what I see really comes down to my experience to show them that you trust them and that you want to help them. Be real to them.

I just get the vibe that blue-collar people tend to be really authentic and especially if you’re part of the labor class, they’re very authentic and they’re upfront. And because I feel if you go to the big cities where you’re working around a desk or whatever, there’s a lot of offices. Politics and I’m sure it’s then the construction industry as well, but in general, though a lot of the people that are working over there are relatively honest and talkative, I have a friend with whom I discussed these things. About the difference between blue-collar America and white-collar America. What are the differences in mindset, we have these really interesting conversations, on the personalities and how they relate to each other. 

So, because blue-colored people, for instance, they would just tell, they’ll just give you an insult on your face one day and then they’ll be all right, let’s go get a beer right after. But in the white-collar world, for instance, they’ll be really nice to you and then behind your back. They’ll start scheming and politicking. It’s almost Washington, DC in a lot of ways, but I don’t know that’s some of the discussions I had with my friend, and I don’t know how much of it is true and how much of it is a stereotype, but it’s something I definitely wanted to ask you about, yeah. 

Yeah, it’s, you know, I’ve not put a lot of thought into that. To be quite frank. I do understand your perspective. There are some people that will just definitely be nice to you, you know, upfront, but turn around and tear you down behind your back. There’s a factor to that that I’ve seen as well is that blue collars will generally be more upfront with you, but then they’re OK to go out and have a beer with you. That’s who they are. They’re genuine in that way. 

No, totally. But on a different note, Leon. What was the biggest challenge you faced in your entrepreneurial journey while you were building your company and how did you overcome it? 

So, the biggest challenge that I faced at one time was when there was a time… So, when I started in construction, I had a dream just to be in construction for a short period of time. Which is not 17 years, which I’m currently at, and planning to be in it for many more years now. 

So, at that time I only plan to be in it for 5 to 10 years. I just want to make some good money and then get out of construction. That’s how it started. Around that eight-year mark, I decided to actually turn it into a real company and grow it. And when I did that, the biggest thing that I found out is I did not know how to hire people. I didn’t know how to qualify people properly. And so, I went through a three-to-five-year period of hiring people and trying to put them into positions that they weren’t qualified for. I didn’t know how to lead them properly, so that was a very challenging time of learning how to hire, properly, qualify properly, and then lead them properly. So that was the toughest lesson for me. 

And how did you get over the process in which you learned all of that and overcame that because I know it can be very awkward, hiring and firing people. What is your modem operand your policy around that at the End of the day? And how did it evolve?

I’ve got a couple of people around me finally that really started helping me grow in that area. And primarily coaches, business coaches, and good friends that really, genuinely wanted to help me grow. I think after about three years of doing it wrong, OK. I see where I went wrong. I need to make sure these people are qualified properly and not just in skill set but in you know they’re qualified to be a leader of teams, right? And learning what that means. 

And so, through the hiring process, that was probably the biggest thing. You know, understanding what you want to hire for and understanding how to set that up properly. And then not rushing into it. You know the old saying: hire slow fire fast. Very true. Take your time. Make sure that you HireRight so that you’re setting your team up for success and setting them up for success as well. 

So, from your perspective what are the characteristics or personality traits you look at in the construction industry where this person is good to work with in the long term versus some traits that you find in common where OK this guy is going to be good in the long term, whereas this guy, no, he’s not. He’s bad news or something like that. 

The number one trait that we look for is humility. You know, do they have humility, and do they have a growth mindset? Those are two of our core values. And that is one of the main reasons they are two of our core values. You know how to say that. 

Look, man, I don’t know everything. You have to be humble to say that and you have to also understand that life is a journey and it’s an infinite game. It is not OK, well, now I’m 10 years into this and I know everything. Right. You know a lot. And you know. And if you have 10 years of experience, you have learned a ton. But if you let that spirit of you know, everything overpowers you, you’re going to let that ego come out of balance. 

I’ve heard one person say this once if you become greater than your humility. Sorry, if your skill set becomes greater than your humility then your ego will come out. So, your humility always has to be greater. So that your ego doesn’t come out as a person. 

It’s really interesting that you bring this up because the key to success in many entrepreneurs is that I’ve noticed, right, normally people have a perspective that a lot of successful business people are egotistical. But from what I’ve realized is that they had these two traits of being humble and trying to learn everything. 

And also have a growth mindset where they would read a lot of books and then they would learn from other people and they’re always in a state of constant growth, but they’re also humble enough to do that. Right. 

And then a lot of people have this belief, but at the same time, a lot of people have this belief that successful people have these big egos because they look at all these, they look at Wall Street and a bunch of big corporations, Steve Jobs or whatever. And they assume that that’s the case. But from what you’re saying. In your case at least the key to success is humility. So, I find that really interesting.

Yeah, it’s definitely one of them. It’s, you know, being able to work with all kinds of different people. Being humble allows you to do that.

So, the point that you made though was at some point when your skill set, you know, reaches a certain level, right? And then basically you feel confident about your abilities for a lot of people, their ego will naturally come out because they have a need to feel superior or their self-work needs to be validated and all of that stuff is about self-esteem. 

So, from your perspective, how do you have self-confidence but also stay humble? As you’re growing. In your skill set and your abilities. Being humble is one of the hardest things in the world. For most people, especially if their skill sets do reach so from your perspective how would somebody do that?

Yeah, that can be a challenge to balance. So, when you look at humility. True humility is not meekness. It’s not, thinking less of yourself? But it’s thinking less about yourself. So, it’s, you know, you want to be a, you know you want to be able to promote other people. When you think less of yourself. Sorry, you don’t want to think less of yourself. You just want to think less about yourself. Because if I continually think about myself, it just promotes an ego. 

But it’s not that I’m lessening my self-worth, I’m confident I know what I’m talking about as far as the things that I’m trained and skilled in, very confident that I understand the products that we provide to our customers, I’m confident and it helps them, right. But having the humility of realizing that I’m a human being, just anybody else out there in the world, I’m just stoppable, right? I’m not any better than anybody else, but I’m confident in my skill set.

I see. It’s really interesting because I know, many years back, I had the same question. I looked at the successful financial people in New York. For instance, all of these successful people had this giant ego. OK, I want to be successful. But I don’t want to be egotistical. But how do you become successful without presenting a certain aura of success and all that stuff? 

You know, because of a lot of people. Whether it’s in California, but especially in the New York area they have these giant egos that come with their massive success, especially in the construction industry.  

So, it’s something that I was, it was a hard thing for me to do.  not having low self-esteem and being humble but also having a high level of self-confidence. A lot of people believe self-confidence equates with big egos. 

Yeah. And you know, that’s one. And I don’t know yet how to overcome it. How do you do it without having that one-on-one relationship where people can really feel you speaking from the heart? How are they going to know that your self-confidence is not ego? Because they don’t know how to separate that? I don’t know. I don’t have an answer to that. I’m still digging in and trying to learn what that means and how to come across that in a way that is confident but not yet egotistical.

Well, we are. I mean, I don’t think you realize, but you’re a pretty humble person, but you’re also being successful in your business and it it’s actually inspiring a lot of people because a lot of people will see that and there, OK, I don’t have to be an egotistical guy some of these, New York people or in not just New York, all over the place In order to be successful on this, I can be humble. I can have healthy self-esteem and still grow and basically learn a lot, you know because that’s that way you can actually achieve more success. But I totally agree with regard to that. 

So, Leon, if you have somebody in the, let’s say somebody is entering the construction industry just the same way you did, but they don’t want to do just a job anymore. They want to start their own business. How would a construction person who is doing a day-to-day job transition from what he’s doing there to starting his own business? What kind of advice would you give to this person? 

Think about the first thing, decide what kind of construction you want to do. Because to be successful in construction, the narrower your field of construction is, the more successful you’re going to be. A Jack of all trades, as they say, as the saying goes, is not going to become really good or very highly skilled at one thing, right? So, I think about deciding, OK, hey, I want to build homes for example.

So, if you want to do residential homes, then decide that that’s the niche that you’re going to go into. And once you’ve decided that, then you know you need to just evaluate all the things that it’s going to take you to get started and save enough money to where you can go ahead and put the systems and processes in place to go ahead and get. 

if we had to go deeper. So, a lot of construction workers are basically living paycheck to paycheck, right? And they want to get out of this state of just living month to month. How would they save? Or what would be the process where they take this massive risk or they’re, OK, I’m going to start my own business and I’m going to make this happen. And what is the mindset that they require and also the tools they need to make that transition?

So, I think there are two things here when you look at that question and that not everybody has made for entrepreneurship, maybe they’re looking for entrepreneurship. Maybe they’re wanting to be a part of a successful team, right? And so, when you look at that, entrepreneurship is risk-taking, and some people are not comfortable with taking the amount of risk that it takes to go ahead and start a company. 

The other part of the question is, how do they save? How do they get started? Right, so that. You know the baseline is, is working on creating a better skill set as fast as you can so that you can up your pay skill that you’re getting paid so that you can also save more. And at the same time, live at a reasonable level so that the more you can save so the more you can go ahead and start investing it into a startup company. 

I mean basically, they have to save, they have to develop a specialized skill set. That is, that is highly valuable.

One other thing I just thought of though, that’s also really important is… Working on your personal leadership skills. That is something that you will need to use a lot, so if you’re really thinking about getting started in a business. Work on your leadership skills when you’re at the start reading some books, start reading, listen to some pod, more podcasts, and understand what is it going to take to be able to lead teams and people and help grow people. 

Totally. Yeah, I agree that basically education and self-improvement is the key. In fact, that’s part of what exploring America is about. It’s about people having financial education to improve, basically becoming passionate about their work, whatever they’re doing, and figuring out a way to monetize it. Right. 

Because ultimately you want to do something you don’t feel you’re working, it’s just something you naturally do. It’s not work. It’s just you’re having fun or you’re passionate about it. Right. 

On a completely different note, right, so you know, they say America is the land of freedom and the place where dreams are made. Do you agree or disagree with that state? 

It definitely is. If you’re willing to go out and put work in and take the risk. And I think it’s become a little bit more in my own perspective where too many people feel it almost has to be handed to him maybe that might be one way of saying it, but if you are willing to put in the work and go out there and take the risk, it’s definitely a ton of opportunity. 

Yeah, I was looking up at a lot of these documentaries, especially about how America was made. And basically, there was this one episode about the forging of steel, how construction and steel and building created what America is today. It was the Wild West, but it was essentially the construction industry that made America into skyscrapers. 

And all these cities are built based on that. And essentially what you realize, Leon, is that it’s essentially construction people and blue-collar America that essentially build America into what it is today, the skyscrapers. The beautiful buildings and all that. I don’t feel a lot of people appreciate and recognize the contributions that people in the construction industry have played towards the rise of America throughout the 19th and 20th centuries. But from your perspective, What would you say is their contribution to the construction business of America.

Wow, that’s a question I’ve never been asked before. It definitely has a huge contribution to the growth and the rise of America, but I think it’s if you really look deeper into those people. That I had a passion for. Opportunity for their families. You know it. It was freedom. It was for making a better life for their children and for their grandchildren. And so, you know, when you break passion down, when they’re passionate, they’re willing to suffer for a time for something better. 

And that and I think that’s really what drove most Americans, no matter what industry you’re looking into is because they’re looking for something better and making and providing a better lifestyle, you know, and providing generational wealth to their grandchildren, great-grandchildren and giving them the opportunity to also be a part of a great country and a great opportunity that this country provides.

Leon, you know, one of the reasons that I was so excited about interviewing you was because you were basically one of the symbols of, what, 19th century and 20th century, the construction worker that came over there, they have faith in their family, they were Christians. And then they basically built, they were entrepreneurial minded. 

And they’re also under construction and then all these skyscrapers are built. They’re built as a result, and you’re kind of a symbol in that regard, you’re a good person, you’re humble, you’re hard-working, and then you have a strong faith in God. And then you also have a family, and then you’re taking part in this process of building all these buildings. 

But it was all these blue collar hands that combined together to build America into where it is today. So, I want to let you know that you are actually pretty inspiring to a lot of people, especially with the generosity in your heart and all of that. 

Well, thank you. I appreciate that.

So Leon, there’s one thing I want to ask you regarding the American dream. So, you know, a lot of Americans are right now trying to realize their American dream in their own way. Right from your perspective, what is? What is the American dream about? And how would Americans achieve it?

I think when you look at the American Dream. Another way that you could say that would be what does success look like to you? One person’s American dream might be a little bit different than mine, per se, or as another person’s. It varies, but I think ultimately when you boil that down the American dream. 

The American Dream was, you know, the land of opportunity, of being able to make something better for other people. It’s a way of serving other people and making home life for their children and for their great-grandchildren better every day. When you tie that all back to what success looked like you have to ask yourself the question. Well, what is my American dream? And although my goals can change. 

My American dream and what that means to me is that I am faithful to God, that I am faithful to my family, and that I’m faithful to the people around me and the companies and the teams that I’m working with. And ultimately that will lead to success. That’s the legacy I want to leave.

That is, that is amazing. yeah, that is kind of, that’s kind of if you ask any person. From let’s say. The blue-collar world or there’s a small town versus the Big City type of dream. And they have these two divergent kinds of things, but you’re basically what you’re talking about right now is basically. People in small rural America or blue-collar America believe in that together, right? But from your perspective, what is the biggest challenge that Americans face when it comes to realizing the American dream from your perspective? And how would they overcome it?

I think when you look, the biggest challenge for overcoming. To be able to realize the American dream. There’s this thing of happiness. What creates someone to have an inspiration? Life and the American dream, you know of being free. And living the life that they desire. And part of that I think is learning to let go of the things they can’t control. And learning to see what they can control. 

And then reaching out and taking some risks. Being able to, you know, saying look, you know, these are some of the goals and the things that I want to achieve in my life and reaching out to people to surround themselves with people that are successful, that are living the dream life that they want to live. And that way it inspires them to make those moves and do what it takes.

Well, Leon, it’s really interesting that you’re saying that, right? Because I mean, let’s say in your instance you believe in faith, family humility and if you take a look at the big city, say, Miami or Houston, Dallas or New York or Los Angeles and everything their version of the American Dream is hedonistic materialism, right? But you’re symbolizing the more you know, in the 1970 where they had faith in Christ. And faith and their family. And then having humble and serving others that they had more happiness doing that. 

And it’s almost these two divergent worlds and that’s the thing that fascinates me. while I’m interviewing right now, that’s what I’m thinking about because, you know, you have the big city dream.  If you ask the big city people, what’s the American dream? I want these fast cars. I want these jet airplanes. I want the yacht I want. I want all the hot girls, all of the Whole night. And then when are you? Go to let’s say your version of the American dream. These are the two dreams that I keep coming to. I keep coming across. It’s almost two forks on the road. It is about faith, family. It’s about the little things. It’s about gratitude and humility. Friendships and all that. And that’s what I find really interesting. But I don’t know. Do you have any opinion on it? 

This matter? Yes, I do. And when you look at them, you know, gaining assets, materialism. There’s nothing wrong with owning a jet, owning multiple houses, owning billions of dollars’ worth of real estate. That’s great. But there’s one thing to realize: none of that makes the American dream true, necessarily, because you can own all that and be not happy. In itself, it doesn’t bring happiness. It does not make you successful. 

Yes, it may make you successful from a monetary standpoint. But that’s where it comes back to you to define what success means to you. What does the American dream mean? You and if the American dream means to you to build billions of dollars’ worth of it in real estate on your own, you know tons of different corporations and so forth. Then go for it. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t. But I think you need to evaluate what really makes the difference and what is the legacy that you want to leave. When you die. 

Leon, this is hitting the nail in the coffin because, basically a lot of people’s ideas on their American dream are the 1980s in New York. And their greed is good. You know, the garden gecko. Greed is good, and their idea of the American dream was new. York high life. Lifestyle, but basically, it’s all coming down ultimately to the pursuit of happiness. What is the way to achieve happiness? 

Right. 

Right? And there are right now too divergent ways that Americans are going about trying to pursue it. One is the hedonistic, materialistic way and the other is the spiritual way, right? Or more of the humility way of, the way of fate. And it’s almost kind of a spiritual War in my mind at least. But I don’t know. That’s just a perspective that I Have but a lot of people feel that way. 

A small-town, small-town version of the American dream versus. The Big City version of the American Dream. One is all about, OK, if you have this, if I have this car I have this lifestyle, I’ll be happy. And then the others are, no, it’s going to be about faith. It’s going to be about helping others. It’s going to be about. And it’s going to be about things that truly make us extraordinary.

Yeah, that’s you know. Just one thing to clarify here, it’s not that I see anything wrong with having a nice car, a nice home, a beautiful mansion on the beach, or whatever. I want some of those things. You know, I will continue growing my real estate base. But the fact is, I also know those things don’t ultimately make me happy when I go home in the evening. It’s realizing. You know when you help people. And realizing what? Brings you satisfaction, right? And that may vary a little bit for some people, for some people it’s different due to their skill sets and their nature and their personality. But I know for myself the more helpful I am, the less helpless that I feel. 

That is awesome, Leon. So, Leon, from your perspective, how important is financial freedom when it comes to the pursuit of happiness and also opportunity? For a better life.

How important is freedom in the pursuit of happiness? 

Can we be happy without, or while being enslaved? Can we be happy… is happiness dependent on being free? From your Perspective cause a lot of people they’re kind of stuck in their lives or their living paycheck to paycheck, but these are the principles of our American identity. From your perspective, how important is freedom when it comes to realizing our American identity altogether?

Well, freedom is definitely something I value. You know when you look at financial independence versus happiness? If you’re not happy when you’re broke, it is more than likely you won’t be happy when you have financial freedom. Because happiness is a state of mind, it’s not how much you have. Now, don’t get me wrong. Definitely easier to be happy When you’re able to pay your bills when you have financial freedom, it’s definitely easier and I would much rather have that than be broke 100%. The essence and the core of being happy. I don’t believe it is made up of how financially free you are or not. 

OK, so what are you saying that after a certain point where you can pay your bills and you’re comfortable financially, more money is not going to make you happy? Now it comes down to a state of mind.

right

No, I totally. I totally get what you know, our state of mind and how we see the world and our mindset play a big role in it. But yeah. It’s always an interesting conversation because, you know, a lot of people especially try to get happiness in external things. But yeah, it’s ultimately a state of mind. 

But Leon, on a different note, I know you’re the CEO and founder of Keystone Construction and also you founded a company, Blu-ray garage door, right? Can you tell me the audience a little bit more about these companies, these companies and what they did, and how you got about creating them? 

So, Keystone Construction is a post-frame construction company and what we do there is there are a couple of different buildings that we build there. One is we do residential barn dominions. Then also garages and workshops or warehouses. And we also do Ag buildings as well as agricultural buildings. That’s the primary thing that we do in Keystone Construction and then in the Blue Jay garage doors company, which we founded two years ago, in April of 2021. And that one there would be commercial and residential garage doors. 

Nice and the second company that you created, what is your motivation for creating the second company you already were doing Keystone construction, right? So, what made you do the second one?

We had a big need for garage door service and installation in our first company several years ago. We got started in hanging our own garage doors and servicing them in Keystone construction. So, what we ended up doing, we ended up breaking that company off of the keystone construction. Making its own standalone company and growing that as a separate company now. 

Is there a project that you’re doing right now that you’d want the audience? To get a glimpse of. 

Yeah, we’re building a sizable barn dominium that we could definitely show them a couple of pictures of. 

OK, that is awesome. How can our audience connect with you and get to know more about you? And what are you doing? 

I primarily am on Instagram and Facebook, so if you go to instagram.com/Leon Limbaugh. Same thing with Facebook @leon Limbagh and also YouTube. And then also you can go to our website, Keystone Construction. Or keystonepostframes.com and then also our website with Blue Jay garagedoors.com.

OK, also Leon. So, Leon, I want to let you know that I’m really honored to have you on this show. And it was amazing for you to share your insights about success and also about the American dream and all that. And I would definitely want you to come back at a later time with this show. 

Hey, that would be fun, the honors. 

I want to let you. I want to let you know that you’re basically, you’re a kind of light in the darkness. We have that right now in America, especially regarding having that entrepreneurial spirit. You have this core American identity and a lot of people will be inspired just by you doing what you’re doing, you know. 

And so, I want to conclude this show by letting all my fellow extraordinary Americans know that, hey, there’s an extraordinary within each and every one of us. And it’s our duty to awaken it and unleash it. So, until next time, bye for now.

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